Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I want to thank our witnesses. This is a tough issue, I know.
I'll go first to Monsieur Boudreault.
The mechanism by which the Canadian government regulates safety in the operation of a railroad is something called SMS, safety management systems. How many of the union members, or the union executive, or the union leaders know what's in an SMS? Does anybody except the railroad executives know? We've tried to get it. It's confidential information. They won't show it to us.