I could take a copy of that to the minister, relative to the other process.
Mr. Jeanes, you've been before our committee before. I've been on this committee since 2007. We value that you and your organization continue to stay actively engaged and active with respect to appearing before this committee.
I don't want to sound like I'm picayune, if you will, on this, but I do want some clarity on a particular point. That relates to positive train control. Ms. Tadros was here earlier, and I think what I heard in her response was that the TSB's recommendation was not specific to positive train control, but to fail-safe mechanisms for braking. That implies there are other ways of achieving fail-safe than positive train control.
I'm hearing the NDP continue to raise this, that it was a recommendation for PTC, and I think I've heard the same, Mr. Jeanes. For clarity's sake, there are other mechanisms to achieve fail-safe other than PTC. Is that correct?