There's no question that for the safety culture, everybody has to be involved in it, whether you're running the company or you work for the company.
I'm not sure I share the same sentiment that somehow the employees' input as it relates to safety, or their version of events, is somehow skewed. I'm not sure I agree with the terminology that somehow our perception may be based on a variety of different factors. I would suggest to you that whether or not it's safety as it relates to the individual employee's job that is performed that day, or the issue of safety as it relates to the running of VIA or CN or CP, or safety related to the community, the employees who do this 40 hours a week have a much broader understanding than consultants and people who may sit in offices as opposed to working in that environment day in and day out.