There are a couple of things, Mr. Chair. A number of assertions have been made by the witnesses in response to Conservative questioning that are a little bit astonishing.
Mr. Ram, you're quoted as saying that safety is your first priority. I believe you mean that. The problem is that when Canadians look at the numbers, in the public accounts, 2012-13, road safety has been cut 5.5%; marine safety has been cut 25%; aviation has been cut 11%; VIA Rail has been cut 15%. That's an astonishing statement. I believe you have to say what you have to say, but the government isn't putting its money where its mouth is.
Mr. Leclerc, you repeat ad nauseam that this is just a technical amendment, that the vast majority of regulations do not require prepublication. If I were to stop any municipal leader or city councillor in a municipality where trains run through with dozens, if not hundreds, of cars with dangerous goods on the back of them, and I told them that we were making these amendments because it was about a technical amendment to bring things up to speed with others, I think, in response to your claim that the majority of regulations don't require prepublication, most people would answer with the question, “So what?”
We've seen a 31,000% increase in oil by rail. We could have a million barrels a day of excess capacity by 2024 if every pipeline in Canada is used to the fullest extent. That's all going on rail, or perhaps even by truck.
Ms. Pham, if I could go to your last testimony on the bridge, what will the toll be, per car, to use that bridge on a daily basis?