Thank you very much, Ms. Pham.
I just wanted to remind the witnesses that section 309 of our procedural guide states:
The obligation of a witness to answer all questions put by the committee must be balanced against the role that public servants play in providing confidential advice to their Ministers. The role of the public servant has traditionally been viewed in relation to the implementation and administration of government policy, rather than the determination of what that policy should be.
With that, Mr. Sullivan, you have seven minutes.