Evidence of meeting #51 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was agreed.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Brigitte Diogo  Director General, Rail Safety, Department of Transport
Rachel Heft  Legal Counsel, Department of Transport

3:40 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair NDP Hoang Mai

Excuse me a moment, Ms. Morin.

Mr. Watson would like to raise a point of order.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, the interpreter is raising the question that because she doesn't have a copy of the motion, it is posing some difficulties in the translation with members at the table.

3:40 p.m.

NDP

Isabelle Morin NDP Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

I'm sorry.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON

If we can resolve that, perhaps she could reread the motion for the interpreter.

3:40 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair NDP Hoang Mai

Ms. Morin, let's wait until the interpreters have the motion in their hands.

3:40 p.m.

NDP

Isabelle Morin NDP Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee undertake a study on the recent ministerial order pertaining to air transportation, to study the impacts on the safety of passengers and the mental health of crew members; that the Minister of Transport, officials from Transport Canada, industry as well as labour representatives be invited to appear during the course of the study; and that every effort be made to ensure that the meetings in relation to the study be televised.

So, given that Mr. Mai submitted the notice of motion last Friday and that he is chairing the committee today, I am asking for unanimous consent to bring forward the motion.

3:40 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair NDP Hoang Mai

Do committee members give unanimous consent to debate the motion?

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON

Yes.

3:40 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair NDP Hoang Mai

Everyone is in agreement.

Ms. Morin, the floor is yours.

3:40 p.m.

NDP

Isabelle Morin NDP Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

Do I have to read it again?

3:40 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair NDP Hoang Mai

No. We are starting debate on the motion.

3:40 p.m.

NDP

Isabelle Morin NDP Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

Great.

We all know what has happened. There was an accident involving an Airbus 320 flown by Germanwings; it crashed in the French Alps and the black boxes have been analyzed. French justice officials have declared that the co-pilot deliberately caused the crash by flying the aircraft into a mountain. There has been an opinion—

3:40 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair NDP Hoang Mai

Mr. Watson wants to raise a point of order.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON

Chair, as this relates to a matter of committee business, I move that we go in camera.

3:40 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair NDP Hoang Mai

I am told, Mr. Watson, that you cannot move that on a point of order.

3:40 p.m.

NDP

Isabelle Morin NDP Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

The black box has revealed a number of facts. During a flight from Barcelona to Düsseldorf, the pilot left the flight deck and was not able to return to it. The prosecutor in Marseille then confirmed that the recordings showed that the co-pilot, Andreas Lubitz, locked the door to the flight deck after the captain briefly left and began the aircraft's descent.

According to the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag, the first 20 minutes of the flight contained routine, technical exchanges between the pilots. The captain told his co-pilot that he had not had time to go to the toilet. At the start, that is what is heard on the black boxes. Then, at 10:27 a.m., the pilot asks Mr. Lubitz to prepare for the landing in Düsseldorf. The co-pilot said something like “I hope so; we will see”. The captain left to go to the toilet and, shortly afterwards, the descent towards the mountains began.

For us, it is important that air safety be taken very seriously. People can have mental health problems and that has to be taken seriously. That is what we would like to study at this committee. The minister, Transport Canada officials and the unions could come and explain the challenges they face with pilots and co-pilots with mental health issues. We feel that it is important to take this issue seriously. A study of the matter by this committee would be perfectly appropriate.

Thank you.

3:45 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair NDP Hoang Mai

Thank you, Ms. Morin.

Mr. Watson, you have the floor.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON

Chair, as this relates to, as I said earlier, a matter of scheduling and business of the committee, I move that we go in camera.

3:45 p.m.

NDP

The Vice-Chair NDP Hoang Mai

I call the question on whether the meeting shall move in camera.

(Motion agreed to)

We will suspend the meeting for a few minutes.

[Proceedings continue in camera]