I appreciate that.
One of the challenges I think we're trying to zero in on here is the idea of an infrastructure deficit and how one properly would define it in order to appropriately measure our progress against it. I think we can all measure how much money and how many projects we do.
I remember when we started this, I think the infrastructure deficit was somewhere in the neighbourhood of $40 billion. Once the federal government got into being a funding partner with municipalities and provinces it escalated, notwithstanding the amount of money being put in, to somewhere upwards of almost a quarter of a trillion dollars in terms of a deficit now. So this is not an unimportant question for us to be able to settle on.
The 95% ownership of infrastructure being at the municipal, provincial and territorial level, what's the breakout between municipalities and the province and territory in that ownership?