Do you have some general modelling? I imagine getting a project-by-project assessment is difficult to provide to the committee, unless you have some examples from some of the municipalities you represent. I'd like to see the cost difference between the 25% and 33%. If that could be provided to the committee, that would be very much appreciated.
Mr. McBride, I think the thing about the P3s that is a concern to a lot of people is that when we look at public transit, capital costs, operating costs, whatever one wants to call them, at the end of the day, they're not fully covered by the money that the rider pays to get on the train or the bus or whatever. Clearly, the private sector is interested in engaging in these projects for the purpose of profit. How is that profit ultimately accounted for in the fare?