There has to be a sensible review of when it is appropriate or not appropriate to have a P3 arrangement. In the case of, for instance, the waste-to-energy facility that exists now in the city of Burnaby and the new facility that's being planned by Metro Vancouver, it's an area of special technology and special expertise, where a partnership with the private sector, with the public sector providing the capital, has worked extremely well and is the model that we're looking to in the future.
Where we have an area of expertise, as we do in regard to waste water, where our staff has probably the most experienced people in that regard, and where the system is integrated with other parts of our system, moving to privatization is contraindicated. It's not something that you would do, looking at it from a sensible perspective. That's why I'm so concerned when the decisions are based on the ideology rather than common sense and practicality. It should be that in the projects that work for a P3, we're given the ability to utilize that methodology, and that where projects don't work, our view is respected in making sure those projects are integrated into the normal public service.