With respect to dealing with this at the end of the meeting, I'm not opposed to the idea of dealing with it at the end of the meeting, but I do object to the motion that it be dealt with in camera. If it's the case that families in my hometown of Winnipeg aren't going to get to come and provide testimony and speak to the impact the changes in this bill are going to have on them and on their lives, then I think they'd like to know the reasons why.
I think it's appropriate that substantive motions come before committee. I recognize I'm a visitor on this committee, but I am on other committees where we do deal with substantive motions in public. My understanding is that going in camera with every motion brought to committee was a practice that started under the Conservatives, and it's one I'm glad to see that some committees have chosen not to adopt. I'm disappointed to learn that's not the case here, but perhaps we can change that at the end of the meeting when we come to consideration of the motion.
With that, I'm prepared to have the motion discussed at the end of the meeting, but not in camera if it's the will of the—