I believe, based on my experience, that very large, heavy industry can't make an instant changeover. It's kind of being phased in for them, and so we hear the complaint that the little guys pay everything but the big guys get a break. You would virtually destroy those heavy industries with the imposition of carbon pricing to a general extent.
Would you agree with that? If we are moving in that direction, very large concerns have other issues which are different from smaller concerns.