Yes. For instance, my son just got his private pilot's licence, so now he's moving on. He has to build hours. He has to go out and fly and build hours and pay for that. How does he pay for that? He has to get a job or ask mom. He has to go out and get a job so that he can afford to go and build up his hours at the flying club.
It's really expensive. If you don't have $60,000 to $80,000, how do you become a pilot? Why aren't the companies...? I know it's different with Nav Canada because it's the air traffic service provider, so it is paying the employees to train and become air traffic controllers. I don't have the answer for how that works inside the aviation industry for pilots. If there's a pathway for people that is streamed from working with the flying clubs to working with different levels of airlines to build up so that they can go to Air Canada or WestJet—but helping all the people along the way—that seems a possible pathway.
Also, there is helping people get loans to get their private pilot licences. That seems to be a problem right now.