I would be happy to support this motion as well, underscoring some of the reasons my colleague has articulated. As a member of Parliament from Brantford, Ontario, I realized that as an industrial community, a blue-collar community...the great downturn, which was called the worst downturn since the Great Depression, beginning in 2008 and ending roughly in 2010-11.... I watched the Conservative government during those days, as I sat in the benches of the then Conservative government under prime minister Harper. I watched them spend more in infrastructure, more in rebuilding in many communities in my surrounding area. They were rebuilding recreational centres, as the minister has mentioned, building new infrastructure for an urban downtown university, which the parliamentary secretary witnessed when he came to announce the official opening of that facility with me. There were other projects—road building, road repairs, bridge repairs—that we were seized with to keep our economy afloat during those years. We did emerge. We did go into the downturn and emerged better than any of our G7 partners. This is something that's often overlooked.
I pick up on the experience that we've had with the Kathleen—