When they talk about expanding certification, it makes me a little nervous. The certification process that's in place in the Great Lakes is there because we had nothing prior to 2012. It was 10 trips, and nobody had to show anybody they knew what they were doing, and off they went on a ship.
It's tightened it up immensely and I didn't want to bring up the numbers, but since the CMC has.... Unfortunately, last year you didn't have a good year. There were over twice as many incidents on the domestic fleet than there were with licensed pilots on board.
Anything that's going to weaken the pilot certification process is definitely a concern to everybody in this country.