Evidence of meeting #146 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was projects.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Ian Hamilton  President and Chief Executive Officer, Hamilton Port Authority
Stanley Anablak  President, Kitikmeot Inuit Association
Scott Northey  Chief Operating Officer, Nunavut Resources Corporation
Patrick Duxbury  Northern Affairs Advisor, Nunavut Resources Corporation
Peter Xotta  Vice-President, Planning and Operations, Vancouver Fraser Port Authority
Allison Field  Director, Communications and Government Relations, Western Canadian Short Line Railway Association
Lisa Baratta  Vice-President, Western Transportation Advisory Council

12:50 p.m.

Director, Communications and Government Relations, Western Canadian Short Line Railway Association

Allison Field

Our infrastructure challenges are really because we took over rail lines that were falling apart. We're only 15 years old or younger. When CN and CP were deciding to devolve some of their branch lines—of course, if you had a used car and you knew you were going to be junking it, you wouldn't be keeping it up to par, right?—they didn't maintain them. When we took over the short lines, they were in really bad repair.

We've been band-aiding and band-aiding, but what we really need is something like the 45G tax credit that they have in the U.S. That tax credit has been studied by McKinsey and other third parties and massive improvements have been shown in both economic outcomes and safety based on that. That's a 50% matching program, tax credit, that has been running in the U.S. for about 10 years, and will soon be made permanent in the U.S.

That, for infrastructure, is really of massive importance, because that allows us to continue to improve our existing infrastructure and then releases funds that we could use for big projects like the NTCF. Right now, we just don't have that. That would be what we really need.

Then, in terms of carbon, the number of trucks that are going on the road when short lines can't operate.... We have some short lines where, because of our infrastructure, we're only going 25 cars at a time. We're operating at one-sixth of our potential. When there's a huge harvest and everyone wants to get their crops out, and we're limping along at only 25 cars at 10 miles an hour, we just can't meet the requirements of our customers. They end up trucking. That's destroying our roads, destroying the environment, for no reason.

Short lines can have a huge positive impact on carbon emissions, if given the opportunity.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

Thank you.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Thank you very much.

I'd like to thank all of our witnesses very much for your time and attention today. I think we learned a lot and we very much appreciate it.

We'll stay in committee business in open session if it's okay. I need approval of the bus study that we completed.

Mr. Aubin, your changes were all incorporated as well into the report.

Everyone in favour of the bus study that we had completed? Opposed?

(Motion agreed to)

I have a budget for today's business.

Can I have approval of this today as well, that is, the budget that you have before you?

(Motion agreed to)

There is one other thing. The analysts have indicated that they could put a letter together outlining what they've heard today in regard to the national corridor. If that's all right, the analysts will pull something together and we can review it at the first opportunity that we have.

Ms. Block.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

I would suggest that this might not even be necessary.

I think this was to receive an update or for information. I didn't understand that this was meant to be more formal than that.

It's a two-hour meeting.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

It doesn't have to be anything.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

I think it's been a very good opportunity for us to hear about the transportation fund from the witnesses who are here. But I think if we were going to do anything more formal or want to provide a letter to whomever, I would want to see us do a little bit more in depth on this fund.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

We can do a letter, we can do a press release or we can do nothing at all.

The analysts indicated that based on today they could put a letter together acknowledging the fact that we had the witnesses and the information that they provided.

What's the desire of the committee?

Mr. Hardie.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Ken Hardie Liberal Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC

I would certainly support a letter.

I think there are some comments and some statements made here specifically to Bill C-69 that I think the minister should see. There are a lot of opportunities here to ensure that the things that people are concerned about don't have to happen. Flagging those, particularly some of the comments that were made, would be very useful.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Okay.

All those in favour of producing the letter?

(Motion agreed to)

Thank you again to all our witnesses for your valuable time.

The meeting is adjourned.