I'll continue along the line that Ken was on in terms of leveraging the private sector in working together with government and incentivizing them to invest.
I know that in British Columbia we've had some of those kinds of investments, such as with the Port Mann Bridge and other bridges, that have not turned out really well, because government is subsidizing them to the tune of, I don't know, $60 million a year. In terms of leveraging money in that regard, we have to come up with better models. I think they're out there; I just don't think we've gotten there yet.
We talked about marine transportation on the east coast. Now I want to talk about it on the west coast. I want to talk about Kitimat and LNG and all of those things.
I know that there's been some movement in terms of having no tankers up the coast at all. How is that going to impact LNG? Is that dead now? How do we look at that? It's significant in terms of investment.