I think that even just having this conversation is helpful.
As we mentioned earlier, one of our recommendations is to amend the digital strategy to include a national strategy on smart cities. A lot of this, as was mentioned by one of the previous presenters, is a matter of political will. What I see is that around the table you will have two mayors of different municipalities of the same size, where one is very actively engaged in the regional collaboration aspect and one has their hand up and is not buying into it.
There's a lot of political will that needs to change. I think that needs to come with an understanding of the benefits. They're not just on infrastructure. The benefits are just so broad. There are social capacity benefits as well. Earlier, we talked about digital inclusion. If we're moving at such a fast rate of speed towards a digital world in which there might be online voting and you can pay for your dog licence online and so on, if somebody doesn't have access to that, they're excluded, and they're not participating in our society. We need to make sure they are.
I also think that one of the successes of our master plan was the huge uptake by our residents. We had a committee. There were two city councillors, staff, and residents on the committee, and we engaged with many citizens.