To understand the difference between Canada and the U.S., our emergency response is to get product to a location on a runway and to create an egress, or an escape route, and to protect the escape route. The responsibility in Canada for the removal of passengers, or any toxics or any fire in an aircraft, is the responsibility of the flight attendant. The flight attendant must be the one who removes people, bodies, anything in there. It is not a responsibility of the firefighter in Canada. We do not have the capabilities for it. We don't have the manpower. That is under CARs.
When you're talking about 50:1 and the changes there, the 50:1 alone is a ludicrous number when we have a system in which the flight attendant removes the flying public. To extend that is even more ludicrous. How in the world can there be the idea that the flight attendant, who is actually involved in the crash, who is also a victim, now has the responsibility of taking people out?
At the Toronto airport, when the aircraft went in the ditch, they were lucky they got the people off. Well, there have been lots of situations, including the Air Canada DC-9 in Cincinnati that burned up, where they weren't lucky. We have had many instances—not in Canada, fortunately—of flight attendants not being able to, and this is with firefighting capabilities that could enter the aircraft. In Canada our firefighters can't enter an aircraft.