Infrastructure doesn't get built for free. We are going to pay for it one way or another.
Our position is that the infrastructure bank will be more costly over the long term, because you are building in this whole framework for profits. If you're looking at the 7% to 10% for the private sector investors, of course it's going to cost more over the long run. If you're looking at revenue generation as well, I mean, not every type of infrastructure can even generate revenue, in general. If you're looking at public transit, it's unclear what the projects would look like under the infrastructure bank, given that the majority of them are publicly subsidized to some extent.