On the interswitching, we would prefer that the interswitching provisions in place in the prior legislation be continued.
On the reciprocal penalties, we think there has to be a better definition in the legislation of what the penalties actually are. We know that there are penalties to the shippers if the railcars aren't loaded on a timely basis, and they know that there's a tariff in place that penalizes those companies. We think there should be a penalty. We're not going to mention a specific penalty, but we think that the railroad should be held accountable to deliver the cars on time.
I can give you a quick example of how it affects the rural municipalities, as well, in the wintertime. We often have to open the roads out to the farmers' yards to get access to the grain. If the grain cars don't show up on time, the roads have to be opened again, and it's an added cost to the ratepayers.