Well, of course, our recommendation is to eliminate the exclusions, but one of the things that could be done to make the long-haul interswitching rate efficacious is to make its application automatic. Right now, a shipper would have to apply to the agency. I'm quite well aware of what happens when the shipper applies to the agency. There is protracted litigation. It's lengthy. It's costly. There are appeals to the courts. It takes months, and in some cases years, before the shipper actually knows what the final determination is.
The difference between extended interswitching and long-haul interswitching is that extended interswitching was automatic. The shippers knew what the rate was by simply referring to the regulation. The agency calculated the rates on a fair and commercially reasonably basis, it included a reasonable contribution above the railways' costs, and it was accepted.
The long-haul interswitching remedy is not automatic. It will be as litigious, in my view, as competitive line rates were. There were five cases of which I am aware of competitive line rates. One of them went to the Federal Court of Appeal. Eventually, the railways stopped competing with each other and rendered the remedy inoperative. I don't want that to happen to long-haul interswitching. If it's made automatic, it will work.