You could go on for a long time, I'm sure, but the fact is, at the end of the day, what the government would like to achieve is something where you're getting what you need, the railways are getting what they need, and there's no need for government to come in and subsidize anyone. It's kind of a net loss for the country when that has to happen.
Let's look at this as a network. We probed the railroads on the fact that they have extensive networks into the United States. I want to get a better picture of the origin and destination, where you would look at what would be going out of Canada and where it's going, and where the railways, with their current networks and what they could actually organize with American carriers, could actually serve the markets in Canada.
One of the things we heard in the fair rail for grain study was that the real attraction of interswitching, where they're actually going to use it, which was rare, was to get the product down to the States so it too could move to the west. That's what we heard there, but are there other considerations? Where's the product actually going and what role can our Canadian operations in the States actually play to fulfill this to make the whole discussion of interswitching almost moot?