Yes. Also Wade talked about service. Many times we'll have a contract with one of his members for an October delivery, and if there is not the proper service, we could be waiting for January. We have financial commitments to meet yet we have no recourse because they have no recourse, so that reciprocal penalty is a huge benefit to producers, even though we are not the shippers directly.
On September 12th, 2017. See this statement in context.