In the time I have left I wouldn't mind hearing from Mr. Dahl and Mr. Nielsen on the whole issue of producer cars because we've received signals in some of the testimony so far that they are almost a thing of the past. I don't know if that's correct or not, but the other issue is whether they are available, and how they are handled by the railways. In the Fair Rail for Grain Farmers Act study we did earlier we heard very strong signals that in situations like that the producers should be considered as shippers as well with the rights that go along with that.
Your thoughts, please.