Thank you very much.
Mr. Hardie launched down the line of questioning I had sketched out, so forgive me if we're a little bit repetitive, but I'll give you a chance to add a bit more colour. I'll start with Mr. Given.
We had some testimony earlier today that I'm trying to square mentally with what you've just given. It was from someone who was a big advocate for adopting the proposed mechanism in the Coasting Trade Act. We essentially heard that the movement of empty containers by Canadian-flag ships isn't happening and is never going to happen.
I think you've suggested that there may be some examples up north to contradict this, but is this something, under anything like the rules that we have in place today, that you could conceivably see happening?