This is a dialogue. It's what I'm trying to get out of this in considering the recommendations we bring forward for Bill C-49. It could also affect the deliberations of the finance committee and other committees, as well as future transportation or economic strategies.
Taking it a step further, we can see that a lot of the problems exist because of the capital side of it. There's no question that they're abandoning these lines because the ballast, the rails, or the ties are deteriorating. Instead of putting the capital in, they abandon these lines altogether because they're not getting acceptable returns. Do you find there's a need, not just from the operating side but also from the capital side, to take action before these situations happen?
I say this because we have a lot of capital assets in the form of infrastructure. There is rail, water. There is the St. Lawrence Seaway, where the docks and the canals are falling apart and no capital is being put into those assets. Before it gets to the point of having to abandon these assets, what role do you see government playing to ensure that they're preserved?