Got it.
We've heard various testimony. It's amazing how quickly this week has gone. We've had 10 hours a day of witnesses, and it's flown by because we've heard a lot of really interesting stuff.
We understand that being able to ship something is critical to the economy, so our shippers are really a huge catalyst for the wealth and well-being of Canada. At the same time, the transportation system is the enabler. It makes a lot of these things happen. Everybody seems to acknowledge that each side—the shippers and the transport system—needs to be healthy. They acknowledge that, but you see the tension when everybody seems to be operating under enlightened self-interest, and it falls continuously to government to be the referee to try to achieve that balance. Is there any thought in the grand scheme of things, as we look forward to 2030 and all the rest of it, to somehow try to create a new sense of collaboration between the parties, rather than just having everybody pulling for their own side?