Evidence of meeting #74 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendments.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Olivier Champagne  Legislative Clerk, House of Commons
Helena Borges  Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Transport
Alain Langlois  General Counsel and Deputy Executive Director, Department of Transport
Marcia Jones  Director, Rail Policy Analysis and Legislative Initiatives, Department of Transport
Brigitte Diogo  Director General, Rail Safety, Department of Transport
Ian Disend  Senior Policy Analyst, Marketplace Framework Policy Branch, Department of Industry

October 3rd, 2017 / 7:45 p.m.

Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Transport

Helena Borges

According to the act, currently there is no notification required. The bill was proposing that the railway be required to provide notification, and that the notification stay up for 60 days. In all the consultations we had with shippers, that was the complaint we heard the most, that there wasn't any notification.

According to the amendment that was introduced, we'd be doing two things. The agency would have to be notified, and the period of time for the notice to be up would go from 60 days to 120 days. Also, as Mr. Fraser said, if a shipper had concerns, the amendment would allow a shipper to go to the agency and ask it to do a service review to determine if they would need to keep an interchange. The act also reduces the length of time required for a service level decision by the agency from 120 days down to 90 days, so that the agency would have time to do that service review.

If we wanted a process where every time a railway decided to discontinue an interchange they could do so, we would have to create a whole new system for how that would apply according to legislation, because right now there's no process to account for that. The proposed amendment would require even more subamendments to make sure we have a process that's transparent and works. We believe, however, that with the amendments, any shipper who has an interest in keeping an interchange open will have time to go to the agency and ask the agency to make a decision to keep it open.

7:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Is there any further discussion?

7:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

I just have one question about the process we're in right now.

We set aside CPC-16 to deal with what Mr. Fraser saw as overlap in these two. He believed if he amended LIB-3, that somehow would—

7:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Cover off the issues....

7:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

Yes, cover off the issues in CPC-16.

7:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

And in NDP-7.

7:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

Yes, and in NDP-7.

If we don't agree that he's actually done that by changing LIB-3, do we then need to vote on CPC-16, NDP-7, and LIB-3 separately?

7:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Yes.

7:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

Okay.

7:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

You still get to vote and comment on the others. For me, it's fine, but it may not be for the legislative clerk.

7:50 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

7:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

We're going to pause for a moment.

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

We're calling the meeting back to order.

Thank you all for your patience.

We are going to vote on amendment LIB-3 as submitted by Mr. Fraser.

8 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

Can I just ask a question? Which LIB-3 are we dealing with?

8 p.m.

Legislative Clerk, House of Commons

Olivier Champagne

The new one.

8 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

The new one. Okay, good.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

All right, we have CPC-16.

Ms. Block, would you like to speak to it?

8 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek, SK

No, I think I have already done so.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

We have NDP-7.

Mr. Aubin, would you like to speak to it?

8 p.m.

NDP

Robert Aubin NDP Trois-Rivières, QC

No, the amendment has already been tabled.

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Okay, thank you.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 29 as amended agreed to)

Shall clause 1, which is the short title, carry?

8 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Shall the title carry?

8 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Shall the bill as amended carry?