Just briefly, Madam Chair, if we are committed through the ministry and the department to the SMS, we certainly have to permit the use of this in the interests of maintaining a good safety system. It's obviously a management tool. We'll have to guard against fishing expeditions, but if control finds out that somebody has blown through a signal, I'd want to know what was going on in the cab at that time.
What happens as a result of that? Is there some sort of remedial training or whatever, or is discipline applied? That's an area where I would expect the regulations to be as prescriptive as possible. Certainly the union is there too, of course, to protect the members.