It would be across from Lax Kw'alaams and Grassy Point. There—if you're talking about environmental and ocean safety—you are 10 minutes from open water, versus Kinder Morgan's project. First of all, they can use only Aframax tanker ships, which are limited to about 500,000 barrels. They have to allow them in, because they have to go under two separate bridges, and they can do so, I believe, only in certain tides. There is a very complex archipelago that they have to transit out of, so they are five hours to open water. If you want to talk environmental safety on the ocean—
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