Then a couple of years ago.... I mean, we can go on about the deaths, but I'm thinking that we need to have a different kind of lens as we look into the future. As I think you pointed out, there are short-term issues, there are medium-term ones, and then there's the long term, right? I think that if we don't start planning now, we're going to end up being down there, and we're going to have a mess on our hands.
On April 18th, 2016. See this statement in context.