I didn't hear the testimony, so I'm not too sure that I'm in a position to comment. I guess I would simply say that, based on all the work that we've done, through the polling that we do consistently of the municipal property taxpayers and residents, their number one issue is the quality of their infrastructure. I'm not about to tell them that there's someone else who thinks they're wrong because they travel the roads. I will tell you that the roads I travelled two weeks ago and the roads I travelled just to get to work the other day feel a lot different as a result of the storm—the bridges and the flooding that happened. We've had closed bridges. People are living this day in, day out and I think they would tell you quite readily that there is a huge need. The other two witnesses were absolutely right that we definitely have a huge backlog in Ontario.
It's going to take us a lot of money over a long period of time to make the inroad on even just health, water, and safety things. There are a lot of standards that municipal governments have to meet and they can't close their eyes to it.