No problem; thanks for saying doctor. It's also professor, so I go by that. Thank you, though.
In terms of other forms of financing, what is EDC doing? What is BDC doing? They're floating bonds. We bought a very expensive pipeline that way. So bonds are an option—or debt, let's say, which is why in my comments I focused on equity, which is, I think, fairly different. What really distinguishes P3 from other ways of financing public infrastructure is that it actually offers these equity stakes or ownership stakes in these projects versus floating bonds, let's say. In the U.S. they use revenue bonds, where they link repayment to, say, the tolls that are on highways and this kind of thing without a P3 model.
We also have these very well-capitalized pension funds that could be enticed, maybe, to buy into bonds as they used to. This is how a lot of the infrastructure was financed in Canada for a very long time. We could follow those kinds of models. There is also the Canada Lands Company. It has its own difficulties, but it does its financing for its real estate ventures through commercial operations like the CN Tower and whatnot. A lot of models actually already exist in the public sector.