One thing that certainly has evolved for us is how to get that contribution over time. Let me give you one example. On zero-emission buses, we're working with municipalities, which would be our biggest partners on those projects. The member mentioned Brampton, for instance, where a municipality wants to convert its fleet away from diesel to electric, or some other non-emitting bus, and build a charging infrastructure. Up front, that might be significantly funded by grant money, traditionally, both federal and from the municipality itself, and from a loan from the CIB. Over time, once the buses are purchased, on the road, and the savings case is proven, we might actually then draw in additional private capital partway through.
This is called syndication. It's the kind of thing we're now looking at. It's not only about how much you can bring in up front, but over the life of the asset.