Well, history has shown all these 42 years that you can't negotiate and you can't expect any positive outcome with a country that has absolutely zero regard for human rights and international treaties, and basically violates every norm with impunity. Unfortunately, one of the biggest battles we had was to educate many people. When they promise you they're going to do something or they don't say no to you, it doesn't mean they're going to do something for you.
Early on, we spoke to the TSB and said, “Look, why don't you put further pressure on the investigative team, put more pressure, even through ICAO's annex 13?” They said, “Look, we are asking to get a higher designation. They haven't said no to us.” It's just like they're basically dangling this carrot in front of these officials. By just not saying no, you are almost hoping they are going to say yes, but that never happens. That never, ever has happened in 42 years of diplomacy with this country.