It's fundamental. If we look at train systems that are successes around the world, there are those that have worked with cities and communities to build high-density destinations around train stations. As long as we build train stations that are far from where people live, that are hard to get to, and where there's not much to do around them, it's hard to get ridership.
While the Ottawa train station is beautiful, the reality is that if we still had the old Rideau station, downtown on Rideau Street, ridership would be higher.
What we have to do here is build communities around these stations and connect with airports, which is fundamental. Those are the two main drivers for ridership: airports and downtowns. That's what we have to work on.
The federal government has to create these partnerships with cities and communities to get the ball rolling.