Evidence of meeting #106 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was highway.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Kelly Gillis  Deputy Minister, Office of Infrastructure of Canada
Arun Thangaraj  Deputy Minister, Department of Transport
Serge Bijimine  Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy, Department of Transport
Ron Hallman  President and Chief Executive Officer, Parks Canada Agency
Andrew Campbell  Senior Vice-President, Operations, Parks Canada Agency

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Thank you, Mr. Barsalou‑Duval and Minister.

Next we have Mr. Bachrach for two and a half minutes.

Go ahead, please, sir.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Minister, did you personally reach out to Flair Airlines after they abandoned over 100 passengers in Mexico last weekend?

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

My deputy did.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Why didn't you?

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

I didn't because he did.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

What recourse do those passengers now have?

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Flair, like any other company, has to provide them with a minimum of stuff, such as a food allocation, and it has to book them—

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

But it's too late for that.

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Can I finish?

Actually, the good news is that they're all out of Mexico. They're all back in Canada.

They had to provide them, as soon as possible, with another flight with the same company or with another company.

We're totally off topic, but it's an important question, even though it's not roads.

That's why we put passengers' rights in place. Then we realized that there were some loopholes. Then we asked the—what is OTC in English?—

March 21st, 2024 / 11:45 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of Transport

Arun Thangaraj

It's the Canadian Transportation Agency.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I'm very familiar, Minister—

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Okay.

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Now we are waiting on them for the recommendations, but airline companies have to do better.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Was Flair in contravention of the air passenger protection regulations?

You're saying that there are rules and they need to follow them and stuff. You've used up a significant amount of the time.

Flair is clearly in contravention of the air passenger protections. I think that's what your deputy is whispering in your ear right now.

What did you do on behalf of these passengers? They had to find their own way back to Canada.

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

First of all, I'm not the person who's going to come here to defend the big airlines. I think they are able to do that themselves. Actually, I think they can all do better.

It's not up to me to decide in which cases the company is responsible or not. The passenger who was transited and got stuck there has to put in a complaint—

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Yes, that's my next question.

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Then the agency will determine if they're right or not and make sure that they are compensated.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Okay, fantastic.

My next question is for Mr. Bijimine.

What is the current backlog of complaints at the CTA? Give us a number.

Serge Bijimine Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy, Department of Transport

We are at around 70,000.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

It's 70,000 complaints? This is absolutely astounding.

Air Canada sent me an email and they said it might take up to three years for the CTA to get to my complaint, so I should take $150 instead of the thousands that they owe me.

Does three years sound like about the right wait time?

11:45 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy, Department of Transport

Serge Bijimine

They do have a new process that they are putting in place that basically fast-tracks a lot of these complaints. We've seen a lot of progress over the past few months.

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

The backlog is growing. How can you call that progress?

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Thank you, Mr. Bijimine. Thank you, Mr. Bachrach.

11:45 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy, Department of Transport

Serge Bijimine

There have been more complaints, but the time it takes has actually gone down by quite a bit.

The Chair Liberal Peter Schiefke

Thank you very much.

The next speaker is Mrs. Vien.

Mrs. Vien, the floor is yours for five minutes.