Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to both of our witnesses for being here.
I'm interested in this. You were mentioning, Mr. Jones, the Swoop effect, and how in certain markets where you were trying to compete, Swoop would come in, drive down the pricing, essentially chase you out of the market and then leave themselves. When they did that, when they came in with ultralow pricing as a form of anti-competitive behaviour, were they making any money? Or was this a money-losing venture that was part of a larger picture for the company?