First, let me thank you for raising the notion of airlines as a key component of the supply chain. That's one of their key roles and is often forgotten. We're all sitting here in person because airlines transported vaccines a couple of years ago. Otherwise, we'd all still be at home.
How we integrate the various modes is an absolutely fundamental question. In fact, just a few weeks ago, all of the transportation modes met with the Governor of the Bank of Canada to discuss issues we had in common and where we could work together as a collective body—as shippers, as rail, as airlines, etc.—to better serve the market and to strengthen the entire sector. Some of those common issues included, as I mentioned earlier, not just airlines but also other sectors talking about the regulatory burdens they face. Some of the other panellists talked about the labour constraints. There are a number of things we need to do in common to better integrate the modes.
One thing I will say—and my take on this is slightly different from Mr. Bachrach's interpretation—is that we, of course, don't oppose other modes. We believe there is a fairly significant subsidization of those other modes. That's where we're talking about rebalancing the user-pay system within air travel.