I think we have to make a distinction between the duty hours of pilots and the duty hours of flight attendants, and I would probably direct your question on the duty hours of the pilots to the pilots' associations.
In terms of hours and duty hours, one thing that is for sure, for your information, members of the committee, is that for flight attendants, when they are at work, not all those hours they are at work are paid. You will be taking a flight probably after this week, and when boarding, you will have the assistance of a flight attendant who is working, but that is not considered paid work, and it's not paid by most airlines in Canada. We don't think that's acceptable.