One of the challenges we have as an industry, and I suspect a lot of manufacturing sectors are the same, is that we have 8,000 facilities across the country, and the vast majority of them are small and mid-size. Most companies really struggle to even keep up with what the evolutions are in different regulations.
Everybody wants to do the right thing. I think everybody understands that contributing to a reduction in carbon emissions and contributing to sustainability in general are important. What we haven't done particularly well is help companies to adopt those measures and enable them to do that. In many cases, companies are, in fact, struggling with how they adapt their businesses to accommodate all of these new regulations and requirements that are coming through.
I will just say that we see the same thing on plastics and packaging. Companies really do want to move to sustainable packaging, but they're struggling because they don't manufacture the packaging themselves, and, as you well know, garbage collection and recycling are provincial and, at some points, municipal, and across the country we simply don't have the infrastructure in place to even accommodate the collection of some of these more sustainable packaging options.