Just getting your commercial driver's licence does not mean you're ready to drive a 53-foot trailer down the highway—mountain passes and dangerous goods or not, period. You're not fully equipped. We need to bridge that gap.
I would say, to Mike's point, that at the provincial level, there's entry-level training. What we're looking to do is get consistency at that occupational level of training. When a new driver comes into a fleet and they have their commercial driver's licence, they need at least a couple of months with another trained driver to get them worthy. What we need is consistency. We need all stakeholders at the table. We need insurance at the table.
To answer your question as to who decides when this gets recognized as a skilled occupation, I believe that also has to come from the industry. We have to be a part of that solution too. We need buy-in across the industry on what the occupational level standard looks like that makes it a skilled trade.