Is it possible to quantify it over the course of the short term? Long-term, there have been recommendations that you've all made. Obviously, there can be fixes put into place, but that's not going to happen tomorrow. A couple of years down the road, we are going from 19,000 to what? We are 28,000 truck drivers short; that is what we heard at the last meeting. What are we looking at two to five years down the road? Do you have any sense of that?