Sure.
I think there are lots of directions where that can go, but let me start by saying that the motive of private carriers is profit. If the route is not profitable, why would they continue having services on that route?
A case in point to this is in Saskatchewan, where the government said private carriers would take over when STC was shuttered. Out of, I believe, 10 private companies that came forward, there's one that still exists, and it operates in three cities in the province, because that's where it's profitable.
We have to start looking at public transportation as beyond the economic indicators of profitability on routes. We need to look at it.... There are so many other ways it could be profitable. I think Kasper alluded to charter services and those kinds of things.
There's also what's called a social audit. This is where I think the federal government needs to do more study. We need to know the actual costs of operating or having areas of provinces that are not being serviced by buses. What is the actual cost in missed medical appointments and in people being unable to access, for example, vaccines—if that's their choice—for COVID?
It limits what people can do. In the case of mobility and with my example of Terri being unable to be a citizen in Canada because she had no mobility, it took Transport Canada two years to resolve her issue, when in fact the CEO of the Canadian Transportation Agency said in a study—