The reason I'm asking is that it still completely confuses me as to why we could not have a crew in a hi-rail vehicle, with a chainsaw on the back, and with some hard hats and workboots remove a tree and not have passengers sit for 14 hours. I don't want to talk about the derailed train that was causing the congestion. I appreciate that. What I want to talk about is why we had so many Canadians sitting on a train for 14 hours.
The reason this gets a little under my collar is that I served as a firefighter for seven and a half years. I drove through a lot of snowstorms, in both in my personal vehicle and a fire truck, to get to a burning house or to somebody who needed CPR. A snowstorm wasn't an excuse. We ran to the emergency. I have a hard time believing, if this was a derailed passenger train, and thank goodness it was not derailed, that a lot of emergency response crews wouldn't be there. If I'm wrong in my way of thinking, then I'm very, very scared.
We understand that the minister's office was reached, as well as his deputy minister's, but the minister himself was indeed not part of the discussion. As of today, then, a month and a half later, has CN sat down with the minister—not with his staff, but with the minister?