I advocate that approach for several reasons.
One reason is that we tend to see, in many places.... Dr. Perry alluded to this. You look one day, and these services are available. Then, another day, they're not available. Private operators must respond to conditions of private profitability. This is no criticism of them. It is simply the reality of participating in a capitalist market. You have to respond to private profitability, and generally speaking, you're looking for a lower cost.
We can use STC as an example. This was a service that—yes, it's true—operated at a higher cost, perhaps, than in the private sector, but it also had very good conditions of work. It had union labour. A very high proportion of its workers were of indigenous status or people with disabilities and so on. It had many women working in management. It was using a multiple evaluation, called a balanced scorecard, in order to make sure it was satisfying multiple sets of objectives—not just moving people from place to place, but doing so in such a way that they were satisfied and it was meeting environmental objectives and a whole variety of things.