All right.
How do we compare with other nations? We're actually doing very well. We have some levels of automation at our current container terminals. These were negotiated between the terminal operator and the union. What that did is create more space at the terminals. There hasn't been a steamroller effect of automation at our terminals. It was negotiated and dealt with appropriately, in order to protect workers' jobs as best we can.
If you look at what's happening elsewhere in the world—south of the border or in Australia; pick a country—you see corporations and employers coming in and blanket-automating an entire site. It's like what the Vancouver Fraser Port Authority is talking about with RBT2. What that does is wipe out the jobs. It wipes out the workforce. Our Prism report states that a greenfield terminal could wipe out approximately 90% of a conventional terminal's workers. A brownfield being converted to automation is...about 50%.
That doesn't work for workers in Canada. We're doing a fine job, in Canada, moving the boxes. We have a broken system. We don't need to spend $3.5 billion to create a terminal that's going to wipe out Canadian jobs. The port authority has already spent half a billion to a billion dollars, and it hasn't yet put a shovel in the ground. The money.... It has to stop. The feds have to put a plug in the sinking ship that is RBT2.