Okay. You were engaging in what was effectively sales and lobbying activity. You won't describe these as sales meetings. You won't describe these as lobbying meetings, yet something happened that led to this massive spike in contracts with McKinsey of over $100 million over the 10 years of this government. That seems like an obvious problem because, in the wording of the Lobbying Act, the requirement for impartiality in the awarding of contracts is not supposed to be gotten around with this sort of business lingo, doublespeak: “selling without selling” or “lobbying without lobbying”.
I want to put to you that I think that's the problem. I'll just invite you to respond to those points if you want to, but I do have one more question to get in before the end of my time.