I'll add to that the context of that email exchange. If we cast back to the launch of the CIB, in early 2018 there were virtually no employees there. The chair of the board at the time felt there was a need to stand up a risk management organization to protect Canadian taxpayers' interests. She was in the market looking for people, and she asked us if we had any relationships with qualified people who could potentially be hired into the CIB as staff.
As Mr. Pickersgill alluded to, should that come to pass, we would have asked those people to sever their relationship with McKinsey and become formal employees of the CIB. It did not come to pass.