I have no idea. What I remember is hearing Mark Wiseman. He spoke quite a lot. It was then just a conversation with Michael Sabia.
That's all I recall. I don't actually recall the details, except that it was, I think, at the most half an hour, because I was coming from a dinner that I wanted to finish before joining.
I certainly didn't see it as a McKinsey seminar. It was a conversation with Michael Sabia and Mark Wiseman about him taking on the new role as chair.